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	<title>Comments on: A Wandering Eye: Apple, AT&amp;T and Verizon</title>
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		<title>By: texasyellowdog</title>
		<link>http://pro.gigaom.com/2009/05/a-wandering-eye-apple-att-and-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>texasyellowdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MiFi has been perfect so far.  I only use about 7mb/day; probably because my ipod touch is my primary device, and the built in apps for the NYT and WSJ along with Google reader have light bandwidth requirements.  If I were using a lot of full web pages, it might be a lot more.  In a -90dbm EVDO (3 bar) reception area I get 600kb download, but in a -70 (5 bar) area I can get 1.2mb download.  Other reports in Dallas claim 2mb download -- my towers may be backhaul limited.  If you haven&#039;t seen one of these in person, you can not believe how small and lightweight they are.  It&#039;s half the weight and volume of the ipod touch.  I just leave in in my pocket.  There may be a next step, maybe multi carrier, but it would be a lot to ask of your phone to power a wireless router also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MiFi has been perfect so far.  I only use about 7mb/day; probably because my ipod touch is my primary device, and the built in apps for the NYT and WSJ along with Google reader have light bandwidth requirements.  If I were using a lot of full web pages, it might be a lot more.  In a -90dbm EVDO (3 bar) reception area I get 600kb download, but in a -70 (5 bar) area I can get 1.2mb download.  Other reports in Dallas claim 2mb download &#8212; my towers may be backhaul limited.  If you haven&#8217;t seen one of these in person, you can not believe how small and lightweight they are.  It&#8217;s half the weight and volume of the ipod touch.  I just leave in in my pocket.  There may be a next step, maybe multi carrier, but it would be a lot to ask of your phone to power a wireless router also.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wolf</title>
		<link>http://pro.gigaom.com/2009/05/a-wandering-eye-apple-att-and-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 22:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@texasyellowdog - how do you like your MiFi?  I have been wondering how wireless carriers will answer the puzzle of multiple devices/one mobile broadband connection - MiFi seems a decent first step, but its only really a first step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@texasyellowdog &#8211; how do you like your MiFi?  I have been wondering how wireless carriers will answer the puzzle of multiple devices/one mobile broadband connection &#8211; MiFi seems a decent first step, but its only really a first step.</p>
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		<title>By: texasyellowdog</title>
		<link>http://pro.gigaom.com/2009/05/a-wandering-eye-apple-att-and-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>texasyellowdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 04:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not reluctant to spend cash on internet connected devices, but have been unable to do so with my decade long wireless provider, Verizon.  I don&#039;t want to pay monthly for a data plan on an inferior phone.  Last week I tired of waiting an bought a Verizon MiFi, and I will provide my own devices: iPod Touch, Dell Mini  9 netbook, and more to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not reluctant to spend cash on internet connected devices, but have been unable to do so with my decade long wireless provider, Verizon.  I don&#8217;t want to pay monthly for a data plan on an inferior phone.  Last week I tired of waiting an bought a Verizon MiFi, and I will provide my own devices: iPod Touch, Dell Mini  9 netbook, and more to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Reestman</title>
		<link>http://pro.gigaom.com/2009/05/a-wandering-eye-apple-att-and-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Reestman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin,

I agree the App Store is absolutely critical, and I wonder if Verizon would be so foolish as to want the iPhone but still want to push BREW apps. In any case, I&#039;m sure any attempt to change the iPhone would be refused by Apple. 

Kevin,

The problem with waiting for LTE is two-fold: 1) Despite talk about it being 12-18 months away, who are we kidding? Look how long EDGE held out against 3G. I think widespread use of LTE is still years off, and am not sure Apple can (or should) wait that long. 2) Even when in &quot;widespread&quot; use, won&#039;t the iPhone have to fallback to the older network when 4G is not available? It may be that CDMA capability will be necessary anyway. Apple will probably introduce a CDMA variant in China, so I believe they&#039;re coming to the realization that it&#039;s time to diversify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin,</p>
<p>I agree the App Store is absolutely critical, and I wonder if Verizon would be so foolish as to want the iPhone but still want to push BREW apps. In any case, I&#8217;m sure any attempt to change the iPhone would be refused by Apple. </p>
<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>The problem with waiting for LTE is two-fold: 1) Despite talk about it being 12-18 months away, who are we kidding? Look how long EDGE held out against 3G. I think widespread use of LTE is still years off, and am not sure Apple can (or should) wait that long. 2) Even when in &#8220;widespread&#8221; use, won&#8217;t the iPhone have to fallback to the older network when 4G is not available? It may be that CDMA capability will be necessary anyway. Apple will probably introduce a CDMA variant in China, so I believe they&#8217;re coming to the realization that it&#8217;s time to diversify.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin C. Tofel</title>
		<link>http://pro.gigaom.com/2009/05/a-wandering-eye-apple-att-and-verizon/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin C. Tofel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect AT&amp;T moved the timetable up today on their HSPA network upgrade mainly to keep Apple happy with the &quot;signal&quot; part of the tripod. As you said very well, Apple makes the phone, which are the hardware and software legs. AT&amp;T has to step up the signal part, so they&#039;re spending $18b to do just that. My gut says Apple stays with AT&amp;T in the US until we see LTE deployments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect AT&amp;T moved the timetable up today on their HSPA network upgrade mainly to keep Apple happy with the &#8220;signal&#8221; part of the tripod. As you said very well, Apple makes the phone, which are the hardware and software legs. AT&amp;T has to step up the signal part, so they&#8217;re spending $18b to do just that. My gut says Apple stays with AT&amp;T in the US until we see LTE deployments.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Gibbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Apple&#039;s App Store may be the crucial -- and perhaps insurmountable -- hurdle in launching a VZW iPhone. As closed and protected as the carrier continues to be, it&#039;s tough to envision Verizon supporting an app-distribution system that leaves it cut out of download revenues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Apple&#8217;s App Store may be the crucial &#8212; and perhaps insurmountable &#8212; hurdle in launching a VZW iPhone. As closed and protected as the carrier continues to be, it&#8217;s tough to envision Verizon supporting an app-distribution system that leaves it cut out of download revenues.</p>
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